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Posted 11/7/2012 9:05:00 AM

The political situation south of the border right now is so divisive that last night’s outcome may not have mattered. Much.

Folks from ‘both sides of the aisle’ are going to have to put some of their differences aside if the United States hopes to affect any sort of economic recovery.

Each side has plotted a different path, but they have the same end goal; returning America to its former glory.

If Obama can get that done, than fine. It’s possible that Romney could have done the same had he won.

The election is done, hopefully both sides can come to some sort of meeting ground and actually make some progress.

And as long as that progress benefits Canada, then that’s alright, right?
Posted By: John Oakley  

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  1. JoanA_0122 posted on 11/07/2012 06:52 PM
    What a nice middle-of-the-road comment JO posted on this hot topic. Tippy toeing through the land mines... Not quite so careful this cat!

    Will the US election result benefit Canada? Oh sure. Both sides, despite talking point differences, understand we trade in a global market and that good economy requires civil relations. Especially with neighbours. And Obama understands that as much as Romney. Obama knows he is not king. His hubris is mere pretence.

    America's future glory depends on working with Canada to build a strong, democratic, secure and prosperous North America partnered with our South American, Pacific, Asian and Indian allies in addition to our old European friends. Our commonalities must unite us lest our differences defeat us.

    I wouldn't write off the GOP quite yet. A whole new generation of youth who get their information from Internet sources like WikiIntel and Youtube is coming of age under the influence of organizations like France's Generation Identitaire. The youth who now reject the post-WWII privileged values of appeasement may make the GOP their own, give real meaning to Ron Paul's "Republic Can" to put the spine back in an American culture that includes youth of all classes in freedom, equity, decency and above all, organized resistance to oppression and tyranny creep(s).

    Well, I can dream. As far as the election result goes, I was disappointed because I feel Romney would have provided more national security than Obama's foreign policies can going forward. But I never really expected a different outcome because while some Americans may be uncomfortable with an African-American President, the majority are even more uncomfortable with a Mormon President. In my view, that's a shame...but as a now old sage once said, "the times they are a' changin'" And Obama won't have an easy time of it. In fact, I feel downright uneasy for him.
    1. GordonS_6664 posted on 11/09/2012 08:31 PM
      @JoanA_0122 Yes, the North American Union has been in the works for a number of years behind our backs and without any public mandate.
    2. DrakeS posted on 11/11/2012 11:10 AM
      @JoanA_0122 (mind the GOP)
  2. NickT_7 posted on 11/08/2012 12:51 PM
    I like the election result. There is no easy solution to their fiscal mess. Obama ran on a campaign of increasing taxes for individual incomes over $250,000 as part of the solution. I sincerely hope the Republicans respect the will of the people, who right or left wing consistently agree with this in the polls.

    30-40 years ago there were lots of rich people who enjoyed their lives and yet amazingly they made a lot less money compared to the average worker on average, paid more taxes and there was a higher income in the so-called middle class, which drove the economy. If the Republicans obstruct in the House on this clearly easy call, then all the talk of bipartisanship is BS.

    Just recently that Facebook executive cashed in on $780 million over 4 years. Is she really 4000x smarter, harder working, amiable with co-workers, honest etc. than the average GM worker? 4000x?

    I think Obama understands better than Romney this taxing insanity and how the insanity of an armed forces budget that is bigger than the combined budgets of the next 20 top spending countries including China, is tied to the fiscal mess the Americans are in.

    I don't know if Obama can get much done really.... the hole is so deep and the rest of the world is in deep too.

    Someone has to be in charge--whether it was Obama or Romney. I hope the other side plays ball instead of "watching Rome burn..."
    1. JoanA_0122 posted on 11/10/2012 04:35 PM
      @NickT_7 I see Canada emerging as leader of the developing North American unions while the USA recovers slowly. Perhaps if, as some suggest, Obama simply leaves the economy alone, it will slowly recover on its own. And Nick has a point about how things have changed especially regarding the distribution of wealth. Around 1960, Pierre Burton described the difference between the rich and the poor with reference to housing. He said the poor lived in wooden houses while the rich lived in brick. How that has changed! There are two definitions of individual economic freedom. The first is the ability to support oneself and family from the fruits of one's own labour. The second is the freedom to live off the labour of others. I have never understood how exploitive investment, interest usury and the creation of paper money to purchase debt with which to control resources furthers justice. Western values are supposed to be Judeo-Christian and surely that means love thy neighbour as thyself, including sharing resources. It's a complicated puzzle with no solution, I fear. At least not one we humans are smart enough to discover and/or apply.
  3. GordonS_6664 posted on 11/09/2012 08:29 PM
    It doesn't make a difference for the most part in who gets in. They both take their orders from Wall Street and the people with serious amounts of money (not just your average millionaire).
    Anyway, I don't get how Americans can go through 2 years of campaigning. It's way too much and I don't know how they can stand it.
  4. Douglas Ford [deleted] posted on 11/12/2012 11:53 PM
    I am tired:

    It’s not politicians or leaders who make changes.

    It’s people who are in power to whom changes are often attributed.

    As much as I liked Ronald Reagan, his June, 1987 speech at the Brandenburg Gate in Germany, he stated, “Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall.”

    On November 9th., 1989 the Berlin Wall was torn down.

    Many naïve “analysts” believe that the Wall was torn down due to Ronald Reagan.

    Nothing could be further from the truth.

    The Soviet Union was in its final stage of collapsing, and President Reagan realized that.

    The Wall/Soviet Union fell due to an internal socio-economic/political collapse.

    Ronald Reagan had nothing to do with the collapse of Lenin and Trotsky’s dream.

    Mr. Reagan just happened to be in power when it took place.


    The recent American Election means nothing. The military will still tell Obama what to do. (Gitmo isn’t closed, and water-boarding is still as common as it was in the days of Jan and Dean. Only, today’s military is “into” water-boarding for a different reason.)

    Obama cannot change anything in America or even in the East Side of Detroit.

    Change will result from a multitude of internal and external factors.

    Remember: Obama is only a President.

    And: a President is only one man.
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