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Where Were You Mayor Miller?
Posted 5/28/2008 12:00:00 AM
I've said before that I'm not a fan of guns and I guess that puts me squarely in the demographic of the Toronto City resident who doesn't understand or doesn't care to understand what a long gun or a pistol or a collectable piece from the Second World War means to a hobbyist or a sports/target shooter.
 
Then again, I don't collect baseball cards, I don't tune my car and my only hobby seems to be going online to absorb others people's thoughts and issue in the faint hope that one day I can make sense of what they're saying and bring it to the radio.
 
Today, just days after his illogical, ill-tempered rant, Mayor Miller should have dropped what he was doing to go to Scarborough.  A young man died, shot to death, steps from a school, and police appear to know what happened.  Somebody woke up this morning and determined that somebody else had to die.  It could have been about drugs, money or a diss or a girlfriend who got the wrong look at a dance on the weekend.
 
It doesn't matter.  The Mayor, who is so determined to return Toronto to pre-amalgamation by ignoring everything that happens north of Bloor, west of Parkside, east of Victoria Park and south of....the lake, spewed nonsense this week all over target shooters thanks to a greaseball who belonged to a Durham Region gun club and illegally carried his pistol into a Toronto strip club like an NBA small forward during All-Star week in Las Vegas.

And an innocent guy died.
 
Today, the mayor could have done the right thing an appeared near Blessed Mother Theresa Catholic Secondary and issued a stern warning to the gang-bangers, the young black men in this city who've bought into the gang culture, and warned them that this will not stand.  He could have warned them that police resources are unlimited, Toronto Housing policy is unwavering....if you're a kid who thinks gangs are an option in this city, you're going to learn something different.
 
Nope.  We've got the Toronto Food Cart program to work on.  We've got another five million to hand to the aggressive panhandlers to convince them to live in our social housing.  We've got Nuit Blanche and Open Doors and we've got to bill private property owners to remove tagging painted onto their walls by at-risk youth who're just expressing themselves.  We have racially-segregated schools to ramp up.
 
We have a failure of leadership, a failure to address real issues and a failure to make this city safe for the millions of people who are fed up with gangs, ethnic violence and bleating from the poverty industry claiming all of this, acquired in the past 30 years, is because of some bitter imbalance in a great, equitable society like Canada's.
 
Toronto's message to gangs: "We've been expecting you".
Posted By: Mike Stafford  
Comments:
...the point of banning guns is to change the atmosphere from its present form, which celebrates and condones guns and violence, in order to create an environment where guns and violence are socially unacceptable. for everyone. some get that, many don't. personally, i think it'd be a nice change... -dh
Posted By david henman On 6/10/2008 8:35:44 AM
Now that the gang bangers are also using knives, is Sir David Miller going to ban knives in Toronto or better yet, is our Provincial Leader going to put knives and all other cutlery behind behind closed doors (i.e. cigarettes)? David Miller and Dalton McGuinty, what a pair. What a future!
Posted By Bad News Bob On 6/2/2008 4:49:04 PM
re: Mr. Henman's rediculous rhetorical, I believe he's putting us on for a reaction, no one could be that naive and be serious! Oh yes, I do pay attention and am politically involved, that's why I voted Conservative in the last provincial and federal elections. I also did not vote for Miller, because I DO pay attention!
Posted By plt On 6/2/2008 1:39:04 AM
What will happen then if Toronto's citizens die from guns outside of the GTA? Will he put forth a do-not-visit-Newmarket-past-midnight order? Miller has blinders on, who's riding him to the line?
Posted By Mike H. On 5/31/2008 7:38:16 PM
it's nice to know we have someone like you mike that can expose miller for what he is but as far as the people of toronto is concern,you people voted this num-nut in office ,now sit and enjoy!!!!!!!!!!
Posted By david On 5/30/2008 6:38:57 PM
...pile on the right wing conservative hate, the name calling and the personal attacks, boys. its what we have come to expect from the right, in lieu of reasoned discourse. and, let me remind you once again, one of the primary reasons that those of us who are paying attention don't vote conservative. -dh
Posted By david henman On 5/30/2008 8:50:14 AM
...and for crying out loud, could somebody please tell that balloon-knot to GET A HAIRCUT?!!!
Posted By PartyPooper On 5/30/2008 3:28:36 AM
Talk about April WHine! Guns are bad...ok...and drugs are bad...ok...geez...so I guess Ms. Davis Miller is banning gun clubs and their paper targets...Human targets are OK! And by the way Mr. Henman, just between You and Me....Shut Up! and fight the worst stigma ..."April Wine fan"...I think I know where he lives. Scott M. author...this entry.
Posted By Scott M On 5/29/2008 2:02:36 PM
Re Henman/Hyman: who is celebrating guns & violence? Certainly not us legal gun owners. Fearing inanimate guns as you do has obviously reduced your IQ. You believe that guns have no legitimate purpose, do you? I suppose that if Hitler had not disarmed the Jews with his gun laws (which were designed to protect citizens - sound familiar?), and they had been able to fight back, that would have been a bad thing? Or that arming the Tutsis or the Ukranians against their oppressors would have been somehow immoral? Guns, like knives, swords, spears, clubs, and rocks can be used for good purposes, i.e. defending life, and for bad, like murdering a competing drug dealer over turf. Guns, like rocks or knives, are NOT part of the problem you twit. Banning a tool will not change human behaviour. I suppose you would like our police and military diarmed as well, to promote non violence? Strict laws over who should have guns is fine, but these laws will never be followed by criminals willing to commit murder. I for one, much prefer a world where the weak have the means to defend themselves against the strong would do them wrong. You prefer a world where the physically strong can push around the rest of us. Obviously, that's an INSANE world. My world is populated by good and bad people. The former don't deserve to be rendered helpless because the latter choose to murder. Great logic: we live with dangerous criminals on our streets due to the Millerite's revolving door justice system, so we the innocent should disarm ourselves. Brilliant. Should I also keep my car keys in my unlocked car, so it's not too difficult for the poor misunderstood criminals??
Posted By CarsonH On 5/29/2008 1:58:39 PM
hey stafford, can't you see that guns are killing people. The description of the suspects in yesterdays shootings (young black males) are obviously target shooters or duck hunters. If we didnt allow any people to hunt or shoot targets, none of those murders would even happen. Its not the gangbangers or jamaicans killing people, its all those dam hunters and olympic target shooters. david miller is right on!
Posted By Rico On 5/29/2008 1:50:11 PM
I say we ban Miller
Posted By Matthew On 5/29/2008 1:41:36 PM
Hi Mike I grew up in a small town in NFLD where at least 75% of the people had guns and they were never locked up, as a matter of fact,they were on gun racks in the kitchen or living room. I haven`t checked on the number of gun crimes in NFLD lately ,but I am sure it is very low. If you use this example then Mayor Miller`s logic just doesn`t make sense. I do not own any guns but fail to see his logic.Mayor Miller should stop trying to doop the public and get on to the real problem. Thanks Mike and sorry if the grammar is as bad as some logic. Craig
Posted By Craig Ennis On 5/29/2008 12:55:06 PM
Socialists like David henman and ilk would have us all forced to rationalise every aspect as to why we own or engage in something they don't like, whether it's gun, or a really bad has-bin band from the 1970's. Guns have been a part of our society for hundreds of years and will continue to be regardless if you like it or not. It is people like David henman that have the utopia vision of every body uniting together and denouncing violence and tyranny. People were murdered and killed before guns and will continue to be regardless of weather guns exist or not. There are bad people in the world. So perhaps David should consider the cause rather than a tool. It’s like blaming his guitar for his crappy music. While you may believe your intentions are good…... by blaming the legal owners and the guns themselves you actually do more harm than good by not addressing the cause. What I do have the right to is self preservation and the right to defend ours and family, from the "Bad" people. Also I am free to engage in legal activities without having to explain it to you. I do not need to defend or justify what is legally mine, just because you feel offended by it. So go and slip on your Birkenstocks, sip your latte and stick your head back in the sand.
Posted By Dan On 5/29/2008 12:27:50 PM
Miller is looking for WMD's in Toronto and anyone who doesn't agree with him and his 13 apostles is anti Toronto. I tried and tried to cut this guy a break but he's too busy playing Sim City to notice. I want to be optimistic and say, he is doing something but it's just so lame. He is just so unoriginal. Anyone who watches the BBC, run for Mayor. It doesn't matter if the ideas you regurgitate from some other country with a completely different culture have proven success. That's not the point. It was on the BBC, it must be a good idea! It's all he has left though i suppose. He spent all the money.
Posted By Edwin Spence On 5/29/2008 11:57:57 AM
You're show is addictive and your passion for honesty is admirable. I am embarrassed to say I voted for Miller - I honestly wish I could take my vote back. Didn't they add on an extra year to their term though?
Posted By Brian On 5/29/2008 11:31:38 AM
Henman has obviously lost his liberal mind. The reason Miller did not attend the areas in Scarborough where the gun violence is taking place, is he didnt want to get shot by someone illegally possesing a handgun. It is much easier for this non-mayor to close down a legal and safe gun club than to come out and admit the gun violence is in the black Jamaican community. Toronto is definatly not a world class city but Miller is a world class embarrasment
Posted By michael c On 5/29/2008 11:28:39 AM
re: david henman (note: i'm not sure if you're quoting someone, or those are your own words, so i'll just address them) In Onatrio, we already have what effectively amounts to a handgun ban. If you follow the law, there are harsh restrictions on transport and storage of any kind of firearm. While i don't personally participate in shooting clubs (and in fact have never owned a gun in my life, though i have had considerable fun shooting skeet), i can understand the competitive atmosphere, challenging both yourself and others to do better, in the limited scope of the range. And i have no problem with that. Shooting clubs provide a safe, controlled environment where people can enjoy their hobby, without bothering anyone else. A little like state sponsored shooting galleries of another type, but i digress. You mention that "a gun ban applies to all". That's an interesting notion, since law breakers are, by definition, breaking the law. I've noticed that the prohibition against various things in he past has not worked well (alcohol, marijuana, high taxes on cigarettes, which amounts to prohibition) and a prohibition against guns would have the same effect on crime - actually, it would probably have the opposite effect, and make some enterprising individuals very rich. And - yet another tired old cliche that happens to be true - guns are not "socially unacceptable" - it's the *shooting people with them* that's socially unacceptable. Just like drunk driving - you're blaming the car for the person's action. In closing, i think you totally missed Mike's point, if i may be so bold to interpret. His point was that Mayor Miller cannot say "we're closing down gun clubs because of one incident" and not say "we're coming down hard on low income centered gangs that have weekly incidents". Oh, wait - i suppose he can, because he has.
Posted By Stewart MacLund On 5/29/2008 11:11:26 AM
Hangun bans have been proven in many cities/countries to have little to no effect on gun crime. In many places, for example London England, gun crime actually went up dramatically after the handgun ban. PS> Handguns are already banned from criminal possesion. And Miller isn't targeting just handguns, he's targeting ALL guns, and ammo as well, from his own comments.
Posted By JB On 5/29/2008 10:47:31 AM
Thanks David Hyman – guns are bad things. Thanks for stating the obvious you twit. This city needs a Rudi Giuliani type mayor and not the lame limp she-male that currently parades around as our mayor.
Posted By Roger On 5/29/2008 9:54:49 AM
...david miller is one of the very few politicians who gets it. on this, as on most issues, conservatives live in a utopian dream world. in the real world, the bad guys do not define themselves as bad guys. a gun ban applies to all. yes, i know all the nra type rhetoric about how the bad guys will still be able to get guns. in fact, i am intimately familar with ALL of th pro gun rhetoric. and, yes, we gun opponents are well aware that a handgun ban will not miraculously eliminate all violent crime. contrary to the right wing, nra rhetoric, gun opponents DO NOT live in a fantasy world. a handgun ban creates an atmosphere, and environment, under which ALL are affected. it creates a much enhanced "stigma" on guns and violence, in the same way that we have made racism, homophobia, incest, spousal abuse, child abuse, drinking and driving and so on socially unacceptable. we cannot continue to condone, advocate and celebrate guns and violence and then stand around our society and our culture is so violent. guns are part of the problem, NOT part of the solution. david henman author: "drop your guns" (april wine)
Posted By david henman On 5/29/2008 8:22:51 AM
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